tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post5016587076587571465..comments2024-03-28T01:17:43.262+01:00Comments on Temposchlucker: Scenario'sTemposchluckerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07977208394417444785noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-41554450227178939032017-03-28T18:58:28.656+02:002017-03-28T18:58:28.656+02:00Also same players. Yusupov Immortal Game. http://...Also same players. Yusupov Immortal Game. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1060180takchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12700106696079445533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-61442251555481034942017-03-28T18:41:46.159+02:002017-03-28T18:41:46.159+02:00Tempo , Well done, thanks for giving this a shot,...Tempo , Well done, thanks for giving this a shot, it is a tough one. Hopefully, you will find the exercise worthwhile. <br /><br />What interests me is a correct move , B-c2, can be found without calculation by applying a global principle of activating all attackers before launching the attack. <br /><br />I would say in our defense that this complex position is not your typical position found on CTS with one set answer and totally forcing lines. The PLF found good targets and the LOF needed to shift to the b1-g7 diagonal. In most cases, for a tactical puzzle, the attackers are all in position and ready to strike. I think we might of come up with a correct answer if the bishop was sitting on c2 to begin with. <br /><br />This game is included in Aagaard’s Attacking Manual 1 in the chapter on Including all your Pieces in the Attack which entitled Bring All your Toys to the Nursery Party. He annotates this game beautifully in over 8 pages; and those that like this sort of thing should get the book !!<br /><br />In looking at the position he mentions that this is one of those games that is near impossible to calculate to the end but we can conclude that an attack is likely to be successful if it directed toward h7 while keeping an eye on f7. The Q can join the attack on h5, the rook on H3 is well placed. The e4 N is well placed to join in on an attack from either f6 or g6 . The d1 rook in time can join in but too slow . “This only leaves us with the bishop which is not attacking h7 but can quickly attack it from c2. It is tempting to say that one should play B-c3 without taking any other moves into consideration. “ <br /><br />He still feels that at move 24 he could still play the Bc2 move even though he says there is a win on Nf6 check that the Bc2 moves would simplify things. <br />Earlier in the chapter he states : I wish to convey that in a great majority of cases , we need to bring more pieces into the attack…..having lectured on and investigated this subject for almost a decade, I have come to the realization that it is exactly piece activity that most mistakes are committed in highly dynamic positions. (Us not reaching the correct plan , we are in good company. This game played under time pressure with elite players. As JA likes to say: Chess is simple but it not easy! )<br />There are other technical things that could have been played for the win but are beyond the scope of my comments here. <br />The following link shows a win with the Bishop on c2. <br />https://www.chess.com/blog/Bharadwaj-S/bring-all-your-toys-to-the-nursery-party<br />takchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12700106696079445533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-2117459153802446562017-03-28T14:51:47.661+02:002017-03-28T14:51:47.661+02:00@ Aox:
Honestly, I don't know the answer to y...@ Aox:<br /><br />Honestly, I don't know the answer to your question. Perhaps it is true that every racecar driver learned to drive (something) before the age of five, like Tiger Woods learned to play golf, and Mozart learned to compose). My question was not concerned with the elites (racecar drivers, or, by extension, golfers, musical maestros or chess grandmasters). It is about we ordinary mortals (the vast majority of drivers) who (somehow) manage to "master" (?) driving skills sufficiently to the point of driving being controlled (mostly) by the subconscious.<br /><br />Can we agree to disagree agreeably at this point, and save an in-depth discussion until later? I only wanted to record the question for future reference, to avoid taking the discussion away from Tempo's already stated direction of investigation.Robert Coblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427520849707914818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-50070542284419030922017-03-28T10:46:42.871+02:002017-03-28T10:46:42.871+02:00just had a chat with an american NM. Up to expert ...just had a chat with an american NM. Up to expert level he did mainly internet-play and reading chessbooks. He did read a book for 2-6 months. From Expert to Master he was doing endgame and mastergame studies for at least 2.5 hours a dayAoxomoxoA wonderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16058687381216896080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-78889382625317025552017-03-27T19:20:56.280+02:002017-03-27T19:20:56.280+02:00is there any racecar driver who did not learn driv...is there any racecar driver who did not learn driving as a child?<br /><br />" When Schumacher was four, his father modified his pedal kart by adding a small motorcycle engine. When Schumacher crashed it into a lamp post in Kerpen, his parents took him to the karting track at Kerpen-Horrem, where he became the youngest member of the karting club." see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_SchumacherAoxomoxoA wonderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16058687381216896080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-78494587396010506922017-03-27T18:17:21.654+02:002017-03-27T18:17:21.654+02:00@ Temposchlucker:
An extremely minor quibble rega...@ Temposchlucker:<br /><br />An extremely minor quibble regarding language: the word "flee" (verb) should be used instead of "flea" (noun) - re: "Potential king <b>flea</b>: Re8, Kf8, Ke7". My apology in advance for mentioning this trivial point.<br /><br />I have some thoughts vis-a-vis your observation regarding the 50 hours of driver training but that is not sufficiently on-topic at this point; perhaps at some future point you might address it. The question is this:<br /><br />There is an assumption that youngsters and adults learn differently. Yet in the case of learning to drive a car, youngsters don't learn this at all; only adults (well, at least much older "children") learn to master driving skills. In this specific case, the adults acquire the requisite (unconscious) skills in approximately 50 hours, not the proverbial 10,000 hours. <br /><br /><b>WHY DOES THAT LEARNING PROCESS NOT TRANSLATE TO CHESS (OR ANY OTHER SKILL)?!?</b><br />Robert Coblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427520849707914818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-49600961976084088552017-03-27T16:50:15.230+02:002017-03-27T16:50:15.230+02:00The difference between stronger and weaker tactici...The difference between stronger and weaker tactician is the speed. Speed of calculation, speed of memorising, speed of solving tactical puzzles...<br /><br />No tactician is using trial and error, we all look at the board and try to find "the idea" of the puzzle, try to understand the dependencies, try to see weaknesses. We all start concrete calculation only after getting some guess of whats going on.<br />While we calculate we learn more about the puzzle, find new ideas and reorganise our calculations.<br /><br />we find first ideas by doing a type of partial/incomplete calculation and by pattern recognition along these incomplete calculations. As more pattern we know, as better and faster we recall such pattern as faster we can start with the final calculations.<br /><br />Grandmaster did start their chess in their youth and their saltmines where many hours of chess every single day. Most Grandmasters are known for their exceptional chess memory. I measured the effect of solving 4000+ easy mate problems at CT. After about 8 days not seeing one of these problems i was not faster by solving the exact same puzzle a second time again. Someone with a better memory would have been able to be faster after 8 or even more days. The pattern mate is not easy enough to generate new templates in my brain because i dont see enough related pattern within my memory/forgetting timeframe. I think / guess that kids can learn better with less repetition in a given timeframe.<br /><br />since almost 2 years i am using now a system related to your plf system ( chuzhakins system ) and it seem that i did not get any faster ( or better ) by that. I am just doing now conciously what i did unconciously before anyway.<br /><br />I think now, that improvement in chess is mostly about learning speed and duration of learned information ( = forgetting speed ). While you try to solve a tactical puzzle we are learning the puzzle. As soon we have learned it ( = gained the necessary understanding ), its solved.<br /><br />AoxomoxoA wonderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16058687381216896080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-6952239116362469262017-03-27T04:16:33.996+02:002017-03-27T04:16:33.996+02:00I would like to share my opinion on that. I have N...I would like to share my opinion on that. I have NO PROBLEMS with finding the variation: 1.Qh5 h6 2.Nf6+ gxf6 3.Qxh6 Re8 4.Qh7+ Kf8, but after that I could not find the winning continuation. And that's the reason I would REJECT playing 2.Nf6+ as it loses a piece for "unsound attack".<br /><br />And after 4.Rf3 I would play 4...f5 and 5...b5. I still do not understand why white's attack is sound and how can white finish off Black's King.<br /><br />By the way: I think the majority of amateur players (let's say even 90%) has problems with so called 'quiet moves' (intermezzo is another name for the same term). Especially I have no idea when to play it and how to recognize wherever it works or not.<br /><br />PS. Do not get me wrong - your articles are simply superb, but most often they are over my head. Anyway I enjoy reading these as much as the discussion that goes with that (as a form of comments).Tomaszhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09690570865003924020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-56429424262355429482017-03-27T03:09:03.475+02:002017-03-27T03:09:03.475+02:00I think this position is too complex for Plf. Most...I think this position is too complex for Plf. Most likely at a highest level of Ctart. Aagaard suggests a preperation move before the fireworks. Do you see what that might be ? Jim takchessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10713928.post-40224940876087116012017-03-27T01:28:29.246+02:002017-03-27T01:28:29.246+02:00No sooner was I seeing this problem than my mind w...No sooner was I seeing this problem than my mind was noticing 1.Nf6+ followed by 2.Qh5, and thinking that that was the solution until I saw 2...Re8, then realized that if this were the answer it must be a deep solution, and not the type you'd find on chesstempo.<br /><br />Then I looked at 1.Rxh7, since that is the quickest attack, but realized it gives away too much material.<br /><br />Then I saw that on 1.Qh5 Re8, 2.Qhx7+ Kf8, 3.Rg3 does appear mating, and figured I'd probably just play 1.Qh5 in a game, but spaced out a bit because even then realized that after 1...h6, 2.Rg3 in this line would take a lot of work to calculate and might not be best, so I left this puzzle with a lot of work to still do.<br /><br />I really liked this problem, and the answer is quite long. I didn't think of the move 4.Rf3 (and really didn't try to think of anything here). If ...f5, 5.Rxf5 is nice to spot the mate on f7. However, it probably deserves a longer answer than this for completeness and verification's sake. So, 4.Rf3 (...Ke7, 5.Qg7 with Qf6+) b5, 5.Rxf6 Rb8, 6.QxNf6 (also a tough move to see from the starting position unless you are used to these tactics up a file)...Rc7 (material is still level!) 7.Qh6+ Ke7, 8.Qg5, and here the discovery 9.Rh6+ should lead to mate.<br /><br />I did spend quite a bit of time looking at lines with Ng5, but also realized that once you throw in some kind of rook sac, the knight is also more out of place here than in the starting position.<br /><br />I think that Yusupov was constrained by the time-limits of the game. It's very likely he looked deeper than I did in that winning line, but if he missed one thing, one variation in there, the Rg3 choice might have appealed to him more as a practical try where he wasn't risking the entire game on this one move. Also, it's hard not to notice that Black's position is pretty bad whether finding a mate here or not.LinuxGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15764940044950170053noreply@blogger.com